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    “The whole Gaza Strip needs to be empty. Flattened. Just like in Auschwitz,” Metula Mayor David Azoulai said in a radio interview on Sunday, according toThe Times of Israel. “Let it be a museum for all the world to see what Israel can do. Let no one reside in the Gaza Strip for all the world to see, because October 7 was in a way a second Holocaust.”

    How blinkered do you have to be to see the Hamas attacks on October 7 as akin to the Holocaust, but not see that your own determination to wipe out the entire people of Gaza resembles the genocidal intent behind the Holocaust?

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      I had family die in the work camps, die in the chambers, and die in the ghettos. If Gaza needs to become Auschwitz because you’re trying to shoehorn the Holocaust into the conversation, then October 7th was the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, you sick fuck. This mayor either needs a history lesson, a reminder to respect his family who died senselessly for their heritage, or would even do best to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. These blood-thirsty assholes need to figure out how to goddamn listen when others are crying before they repeat history’s worst atrocities.

      Here’s a word I used to hear in Hebrew school and history lessons all the time: scapegoat. Look around you and try to identify who the scapegoat is. It ain’t us this time… Also, read the fucking room. If many of your most ardent supporters are Nazis, you’re probably doing a Nazi thing.

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      For some, “never again” means “never again let this happen to any People”, to others, it means “never again let this happen to us”. Unfortunately, it is much more common in the Israeli right to understand it the second way.

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        the Isreali right

        The Israeli right: flatten the whole place, I want to salt the earth so they have nowhere to return to and they’re destroyed forever.

        Israeli moderates: the IDF can have a little white phosphorous, as a treat

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      I think it’s fucking dumb how the US supports Israel.

      We only got attacked on 9/11 because of our support of Israel. Now we send them more support because they get attacked.

      What exactly does Israel do for the US? Seems like being the main motivation behind the 9/11 attacks really outweighs any benefits they may have.

      I don’t see any benefits from supporting Israel, personally, as a United States citizen.

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        The US doesn’t have a great track record of “not supporting distopian regimes”. They’ve either installed leaders with a dictatorial bent when the elected government wasn’t doing what they wanted, or just supported their puppet in the area even though they did horrific things. Generally they think “the end justifies the means”.

        Apart from WW2, I can’t think of any major foreign operation that Americans were involved with that hasn’t blown up in their face sooner or later.

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      I generally support Israel’s fight against Hamas, but yeah, that’s pretty fucking dumb.

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    Dude did not understand the assignment. Auschwitz wasn’t made as a memorial. It was made by the Nazis and turned into a memorial later.

    To create a new Auschwitz in Gaza as a demonstration of Israeli power is not to create a museum. Well it might be, but it won’t be a museum to Israeli power anymore than Auschwitz is one to German power.

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    SMH, what is the world coming to when the Auschwitz museum is run by an antisemite.

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      Huh? Where in this story does Piotr Cywiński (director of the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum) say anything bad about jews or Israel?
      He was even part of a counsel that supported the war.

      Some random-ass mayor of a town of 1,693 people is calling for full-blown genocide. The Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum is simply stating that they do not agree in the slightest with those statements.

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    What one mayor said is only the tip of the iceberg.

    You know you failed as a Jewish nation when the very museum dedicated as a reminder of your people’s suffering and the holocaust which lead to the creation of your country is telling you you’re a sick people.

    I know there are many Israelis who are against what’s happening and we shouldn’t put everyone in the same basket, but man…

    I really want the hostages to be returned safely and Hamas to take a hike, but it’s hard to have any sympathy for Israel with how they acted towards Palestinians.

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      I know there are many Israelis who are against what’s happening and we shouldn’t put everyone in the same basket, but man…

      I mean I see what you mean but Netanyahu is called the king of Israeli politics for a reason. They’ve consistently elected right wing genocidal maniacs.

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    I know the asshat who made the comments was just a nobody hick but I’m ecstatic the museum decided to reply to it.

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    Im done with this. I say we solomon this shit. If they can decide on who gets the baby or learn to share it, then we glass the whole area with nukes and nobody gets to live there.

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      Metula is a town of 1700 people. Probably not safe to assume that every random Israeli dildo that says something idiotic is speaking for the country.

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        The key will be if anything happens to that person as a result. Will there be any repercussions for him? If not, it is likely a systematic issue in their culture.

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          What would happen? Israelis have freedom of expression and it’s unlikely his disgusting comments rise to the level of a crime. Would you call that an actionable threat? He’s about as close to decision-makers as we are. Like, when Lindsey Graham called this conflict a holy war against Islam, it was revolting but I doubt most were surprised that he wasn’t legally punished. The most likely punishment is public ridicule and revulsion because there are few cases where people face legal consequences for speech.

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            The most likely punishment is public ridicule and revulsion because there are few cases where people face legal consequences for speech.

            Yeah, and something tells me he isn’t gonna get these things.

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              What tells you? Do you think the Auschwitz Museum isn’t well-respected in Israel? Most English-language coverage in Israel seems to at least be prominently featuring the criticism over his statement.

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      It’s not so much a dislike of Israel as it is a dislike of a government hiding behind false accusations of racism in order to further their own shitty agenda.

      I am friends with Israeli jews, I am friends with Muslims, I would love to visit Russia someday as a tourist, and I am proud to live in the part of America where I currently reside. Thay said, I don’t like the actions of the IDF, I don’t like what Hamas stands for, I don’t like the actions of the Russian government, I don’t like the actions of the US Government.

      But if that’s the route you want to take, you really don’t like Palestine, huh?

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      Pretty much any entity/person standing behind israel’s actions right now is on the wrong side of humanity.

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    yeah yeah idf bad…we all know. but why support gaza…a place with no gay marriage, hardly any women rights, patriachy…overall shit position. the main misunderstanding seems that just because idf is shit, there is absolutely no reason to support gaza. egypt and other muslim “friends” dont do it but the west off all is supposed to root for gaza?!? cant wrap my head around that type of thinking. and wasnt it the arab league that ON DAY ONE of existance of israel held a meeting and made the decision to kill them all? “fRoM zEh rIva2 zeH sEa” is retarded.

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      This is your brain on identity politics.

      You can disagree with people’s views on issues but defend their right to self determination and…idk, being against them being wiped out? Especially because Gaza is almost half children.

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        so all palestinians are hamas?

        lets ask shani louk. …oh, a woman that hamas and palestinians spat on before killing here. yeah…you go root for evil and i go burn a palestinian flag as you say they are all in on this.

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        so all palestinians are hamas?

        lets ask shani louk. …oh, a woman that hamas and palestinians spat on before killing here. yeah…you go root for evil and i go burn a palestinian flag as you say they are all in on this.

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      It’s not a team sport. And the day one war was because Israel declared both Independence and that Palestinians would leave or die. Which is what happens when extremists who have been committing acts of terror create a government.

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        leave what exactly? a place governd by the UK, right? hamas is nothing but scum. rapists. they abuse the children as shields. i dont see your argument really.

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          Their homes. It was a colony, not Liverpool. And again, it’s not a team sport. The 20,000 dead civilians are not Hamas.

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      a place with no gay marriage, hardly any women rights, patriachy…overall shit position. the main misunderstanding seems that just because idf is shit, there is absolutely no reason to support gaza.

      Women are being oppressed, so let’s wipe them all out, including the women?

      What the fuxk is wrong with you? No one is supporting Gaza or hamas, when they say there is disproportionate amount of civilian deaths happening in this war with International support.