• Mossy Feathers (They/Them)@pawb.social
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    9 months ago

    Man, a lot of people here don’t understand how the music industry works. From the perspective of someone who’s been loosely following the music industry, what I’ve learned is that it doesn’t matter if Spotify gave up 2/3rds of their revenue, or 100% of it, the artists would still make fuck all.

    Why?

    The labels love taking their cuts and as a result, artists make very little. Instead of taking the blame for giving artists a <10% cut of the label’s revenue from their music (my understanding is that it’s pretty common for musicians to get <10%, sometimes <5% if you’re on a particularly shitty label), the labels are blaming platforms like Spotify.

    Now, I’m not saying that Spotify is blameless, however I think there’s a lot of misdirection from the labels going on. I don’t remember anyone complaining about pre-spotify services like Pandora Radio for not paying out enough when they were largely ad-supported, which is another reason I’m not totally buying the, “it’s cause it’s free” argument either.

    Fuck, remember Pandora?

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      9 months ago

      Labels are an outdated concept that needs to die. Now that you can find any music from just a quick search artists shouldn’t have to rely on them, at least not as heavily, for advertising.

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        9 months ago

        There was a very, very brief moment from about 2005 to 2011 or so where there was money to be made directly by artists on iTunes or the other music stores where the tracks were like 99 cents each.

        But people stopped buying as soon as Spotify became popular, and now any artist that wants to release on Spotify without a label still doesn’t make much money.

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        9 months ago

        Relatively “large” truly independent bands like KNOWER are starting to give true home recording a base of proof of functionality.

        Power to bandcamp.

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        9 months ago

        Why isn’t there some kind of genre music search for all artists without a label, Foss of course. From what I understand, when you’re starting out in music, getting people to hear it is the hardest part.

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      9 months ago

      Do you know how the merch shops works? Spotify seems to be a reseller of some kind. How many % of the money is going to the artist usually?

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      9 months ago

      Indies are on sporify too. Spotify pays them shit too. Label or not.

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        9 months ago

        They just changed the rules so that if smaller artists don’t get a certain number of plays they don’t even get a payout.

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          9 months ago

          With less than 1000 streams per year.

          This is solely to kick out the AI generated music, which is already taking a significant share of the payout from the musicians.

          This change is not against smaller artists, but for them.

    • raptir@lemdro.id
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      9 months ago

      Pandora didn’t replace buying music. They did not add the “on demand streaming” option until after Spotify was prevalent.