• orcrist@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    That’s one description, but in context it’s misleading. If we wanted to talk about Christianity or Judaism we could look at the Bible and find shocking things there as well. And maybe we should. But that’s a totally different discussion from bad things that the Catholic Church did in the 1900s.

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      1 year ago

      Jesus was a hippy, who whipped scammers at a temple. Mohommed raped a nine year old and was a warlord.

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        Exactly. You’re trying to compare things that people probably did 1500+ years ago with things that happened in our lifetimes. There’s no way to attain justice for actions that happened over a millennia ago, and it doesn’t really make sense to try.

        If you want to convince people that organized religion is shit, I think you have a lot of good ammunition on hand, including some of the things that you mentioned. I’m not sure you’re going to turn people off to Islam by mentioning that Muhammad was a warlord, though.

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          They still worship him, hell they still add “Peace be unto him” after his name, a man who ordered murders.

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              It’s better to just downvote, really. You are always running the risk that you’re helping a troll earn his paycheque. I’m sure this fellow is not being paid, he seems very dedicated to dunking on [women with mental illness] on a personal level.

              (edit for grammatical clarity; “mentally ill” is still often used pejoratively by people like the one you’re responding to…)

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                do you think that her joining islam (and by extension her comments about non-muslims) was a result of her mental illness?

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                  That’s cute.

                  edit: by which I mean, if I am going to align myself with any group in this situation, it is with the fraternity of fellow musicians, and in that world she is my sister, and contains multitudes.

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          All religions are cults.

          By the way are you counting all the different sects as a singular group? In some places the cultists would kill you for that.

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              it’s not like apostasy is a requirement for the definition of a cult.

              depending on which of the dictionary definitions you’re going by, a cult could be anything from a religious system of veneration for a figure, to a group with extreme beliefs outside of that of an established religion.

              to me it seems like the only common denominator for all of the definitions is that the group is smaller than that of a religion.