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  • lxvi@lemmygrad.ml
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    The liberals are doing it. They are trying to dismantle the most sacred and ancient of ethical traditions of guest-host relations. Don’t you dare strengthen your community by establishing some co-relation in the most basic and universally understood manor. Don’t you dare act kindly toward your neighbor or break out of your selfish, commodified, isolation. How dare you do a kind act without expecting something greater in return. The liberals are going after what’s left of humanities soul in the West. They’ll sterilize the humanity out of us more than they already have with their twisted, hedonistic ideology.

    • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml
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      Is there any particular reason as to why libs naturally have and show less emotions than Terminator or Jason?

      I’ve talked to more than enough of them, these people are monsters, no regard to anything except their ideology

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        Egoism has been taught to them as a virtue.

        Honestly it looks exactly like the material emanation of subjective idealist philosophy, nothing is real to them except them.

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          If one reads Prince by Machiavelli and then takes a look at Renaissance art, sculpture, culture, one can see how a plea to virtue was embedded in and reflected the ruling ideology. The virtues were captured in art and portrayed for everyone to see (before and while Machiavelli wrote – he didn’t necessarily come up with the idea himself).

          The art from that time is often brutal. It was a virtue to be warlike and able to crush one’s enemies. So aristocrats and merchants (an early model of the modern bourgeois in the first proto-capitalist city states) would pay for paintings and sculptures of themselves wielding clubs and crushing other strong men – capturing their supposed manly virtue.

          The same kind of portrayals can be seen throughout Europe following the Renaissance.

          It’s strange… the dark ages are acknowledged, a time when records were lost, before the Renaissance became the Enlightenment, but if humans survive whatever is about to come our way with global warming and nuclear war, I’m guessing that future societies will look back at this time as having ‘slipped back’ into a second dark age, where humanity largely lost the capacity to see itself. The parallels are uncanny. (Parenti’s History as Mystery touches on the suppression of historical knowledge, as does, IIRC, Cedric Robinson’s An Anthropology of Marxism.)

          Today we see this everywhere in film, TV, books, magazines, all media forms. Constant depictions of what makes people (especially those in the ruling class) great, and better than others. It’s quite insidious, but art is taught poorly in schools, so children are not taught to question – or even to see – their environment. @Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml, this may explain why we see so many Terminators and Jasons.

          Curiously, most people don’t even accept that members of the ruling class pay for art (and news stories) that depicts them in glory. If you mention it, people’s eyes glaze over or they call you a conspiracy theorist.

          In a way, they’re right, because some of the payment mechanisms are distorted by the wage labour relation. And there are so many people willing to idealise the status quo without being commissioned like a merchant explicitly seeking out a canvas by da Vinci or Michelangelo. As if PR and marketing firms are not just a sophisticated form of the same age old practice.

          I suppose the ruling class knows how dangerous it is to teach the lower classes history and to teach them how to understand relations as historically contingent. That path would lead to Marxism even if it did not lead to Marx or Marxists.

          I’m unsure if this is what you meant, @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml, by

          the material emanation of subjective idealist philosophy

          but it’s what you made me think of.

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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            Now that you mention it, i cannot attest for art, but it’s also very visible in literature, especially the fairly young genre that is supposed to look in the future - the science fiction - from around 30 years already, their visions are increasingly dark dystopias, and even when they aren’t openly nightmarish they do tend to regress into the “golden age” of “infinitely” growing capitalist economy.

  • GloriousDoubleK@lemmygrad.ml
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    Alright. So here is what we do. Gentlemen. We mist don our maid outfits and carboy outfits and cook a big hearty meal for the simple fellas out there eating nothing but pizza.

    It is a duty.

  • DankZedong @lemmygrad.ml
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    Please close twitter, go outside and touch grass for a second if this upsets you. People cooking and teaching their community is not a bad thing.

  • GloriousDoubleK@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    It bothers me that Chinchillazilla looks familiar. I could swear we used to hang out in the same clubs.

    Cant be fhe same person.

  • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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    Go into any culture that isn’t American or Western European; East Asian, Eastern European, Middle Eastern, African, Latin American, Caribbean, literally anywhere in the world, and you will find people cooking whole feasts because there is a possibility of an acquaintance dropping by for 5 minutes.

    Imagine understanding the concept of hospitality.

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      My family is Portuguese so I am well aware of guests being nearly force fed before they can leave and must take leftovers lol

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        My family background is Belarussian, and guests must have a full 3 course dinner, bread, tea, a lot of sweets to go with the tea, some fresh fruit, and 5 large Tupperware containers of extra dinner. If they do not go through this process they will be bared from leaving the house. I have also never left a Portuguese friends house without their Avó using an excavator to shovel food into my mouth.

        It has been drilled into me from birth that I should never EVER eat or drink anything in front of friends, or houseguests without offering them some lmao. I don’t understand how people, especially well off people, can religiously guard food. Even when I am starving and have 10 dollars worth of food to make it through the week, I can’t imagine not sharing or offering anything to a guest or friend, it just seems so rude and selfish.

        • 陆船。@lemmygrad.ml
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          This is what individualism does to an mf. If my guest wants food they would have bought it and brought it to my house 🤡. I’ve been to house parties where the rule is “bring your own beer”. Not “I have stuff but always appreciate more” just straight bring your own lmfao.

        • GloriousDoubleK@lemmygrad.ml
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          This stuff right here is worth preserving. I love to cook. But I also only like to cook if it’s for more than just me.

          It’s really just a very basic human love language. Damn near primordial. It says; I am aware of hunger and I am aware of the joys of a full belly. And since I have the power to prevent you from feeling hunger; I will do that.

          To be THIS MAD over a woman wanting to feed her knuckle headed neighbors is stunning.

          Where I work, we used to do unsanctioned pot lucks. Outside the mandates of management. Stuff like that builds solidarity. I have older women coworkers who straight up feed me and on return; I usually find myself making sure I do most the heavy lifting in my job specifically for them because they’re older and I dont wanna see my coworkers risk hurting themselves.

          It aint patriarchy for women to cook for men. It’s patriarchy to MAKE women cook for men as a prescriptive expectation of gender roles.

          Why be angry at women who WANT to be motherly?

  • HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml
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    Dear fake wokers: saying that a woman shouldn’t cook for other people is just as sexist as saying a woman should.

    Feminism is not about changing what women can and can’t do in society, it’s about women’s right to freely choose without coersion or societal pressure what they do and don’t do.