Several layers to unpack in that explanation:

1. “The idea of the nation” is “Ідея Нації” in Ukrainian, so the symbol would have to be superimposed I and H, not superimposed I and N which doesn’t even exist in Ukrainian alphabet. Trying to derive it from the stylised medieval Cyrillic calligraphy is frankly laughable cause it still looks nothing like Latin N.

So this is false on the face of it, the symbol is just an SS Wolfsangel.

2. This symbol was used by neo-Nazi, self described “National Socialist” political groups in Ukraine since the late 90s, and there is direct lineage from them to Azov. It’s simply the same people still using the same symbol.

3. He seems to think N is a Ukrainian letter for S, or that the fascist slogan “idea of nation” would have some Ukrainian words starting with S, when it’s simply “ideya naziyi” cause neither word is of Ukrainian origin. In fact, them choosing to use “naziya” instead of much more commonly used Ukrainian word “narid” is particularly telling.

They try to reverse-explain a nazi symbol and can’t come up with anything better than a fascist slogan.

I’ll also take an issue with the whole “vatnik” meme which is very classist.

Vatnik is a quilted coat with extremely simple design: cotton wadding sewn between two sheets of fabtic, square torso, patch pockets sewn through with stiching showing on the other side, much like French chore coats. It originates from Cental Asian quilted robes and was worn in Russia since the 19th century.

It was mass produced in the USSR since 1932, initially for the Red Army but quickly became ubiquitous - it was warm, sturdy, cheap, easy to produce, so it was used by hunters, construction workers, street sweepers, night watchmen, farmers, and virtually anyone who had to spend a lot of time outdoors in the Russian weather. It quickly spread all over Eastern Europe and Asia, widely used from Poland to Mongolia. As an item of the Eastern Block “heritage workwear”, vatnik is as iconic as denim for yanks.

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People wearing this cheap, crude coat pushed Nazis all the way back to Berlin. Incidentally, Hugo Boss designed Nazi coats didn’t fare quite as well in the Russian winter.

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In the 60s and 70s as the USSR economy provided better looking winter garments for its army and citizens, vatniks lost some of their use, but were still common in the rural areas, amongst poorer urban population, and as workwear, well after the dissolution of the USSR.

People who use this word as an insult simply hate the workers and the poor.

Yes, my sister from aunt has one, they’re super cute

? how does 10/3/35 have any connection to 88?

TIL you have OCD

Don’t derail this conversation! If you look closely on the sign, you can spot the letter “A” which the Nazis prominently used as part of the sentence “Arbeit macht frei”

Excuse me, haven’t you heard of context?

Now let me continue harassing this popular teenage girl on the internet.

It’s St. George cross, very prominent symbol and one of the main decorations of Russian Empire. Naturally it is also used by all manners of postsoviet nationalists, and yes, it’s also often neonazi symbol as very close analogue of iron cross.

The Nazis really did ruin everything.

Antisemitism is the socialism of fools.

Nazi birds get the wall too kid. No exceptions.

That’s kind of how social media heroizes and villinizes people based on political stances. They want their parasocial heroes that seem to represent them to always have their opinions validated. Its not like citizens in the colonial west can actually change anything other than do what capital requires, so instead of policy changes they have to psychologically push themselves online to have popular parasocial heroes say what is necessary instead. When they realize that they can’t even get that and a contradiction between their parasocial heroes don’t reflect their opinions, the feeling of betrayal feels even more immense.

Actual Kraken is a squid