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    9 days ago

    Americans are upset, just politicians are afraid to lose their annual bribes if they talk outside of church.

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      The other side gives bribes too. The only difference is that Israel has a stronger lobby and a bigger pot to finance their payoffs.

      This will never end until we get the money out of politics.

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        Wait, what’s the other side that pays folks to free Palestine? Honest question, because if they exist, they sure are doing a shit job.

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    They responded to this in the past: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/israel-west-bank-and-gaza-travel-advisory.html

    This kind of thing is entirely predictable and US citizens have been warned by the State Department about there being an active conflict happening in the area.

    So a US citizen died while ignoring a travel advisory from the US government. US citizenship doesn’t make someone invincible, and it doesn’t mean the US military is going to avenge your death (or whatever fantasy you can come up with) if you’re deliberately ignoring the warnings about an area of the world being dangerous. The obligation of protecting citizens was fulfilled by issuing the warning.

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    Democrats are limp wristed when it comes to Israel. Expect more death, they won’t raise a finger to stop it. Republicans aren’t any better.

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      Both sides huh? Last I heard the Democrats are negotiating a peace treaty and the Republikkklowns are writing finish them on the bombs.

      What’s your angle?

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        Amazing how that it’s already done peace deal still isn’t done. Almost like dems and bibi don’t care about getting it done

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          The US has presented 3 separate peace deals that everyone has accepted but Netanyahu has sabotaged at the last minute. That is not the fault of “the Dems”.

          At the same time, Republicans have yet to do anything but cheer on the genocide in Gaza and the violence in the West Bank.

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            Why would Israel do anything if they can keep going and have no consequences?

            Notice how many othet administrations, including Republicans, have managed to reign in Israel. Yet all this one does is well let me wag my fingers harder

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            The US has presented 3 separate peace deals that everyone has accepted but Netanyahu has sabotaged at the last minute.

            Because Netanyahu knows he’ll keep getting his genocidin’ weapons no matter what he does.

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              There are Republicans in Congress voting to authorize those packages, too.

              And still no Republicans calling for peace or trying to get Netanyahu to accept the terms of the peace deals, nor Republicans decrying the genocide in Gaza or the West Bank…

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                Congratulations on having two parties that vote for the policies you support. Not getting how that is some sort of comeback to my assertion that Netanyahu is getting the weapons no matter what he does.

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                  You know the deal. You know what’s happening, I asked what’s your angle and you seem to refuse to answer that. I’ll give you a quick ELI5, Iran will run roughshot over the middle east if there isn’t someone there to keep them inline. Israel is that someone. If you don’t see that, you’re either wearing blinders, or you’re a bad actor.

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          The lobbyists getting fat and rich off their layouts from weapons manufacturers will ensure it never gets done. Who do you think Israel is getting all their guns and drones and missiles from? Guess what? It’s the same place Hamas gets theirs from. The only difference between them is the number of bank accounts and off-the-books deals on the way there.

          Those bombs will keep flowing to both sides as long as money keeps flowing back. Ideology has nothing to do with it. It’s all about the cash.

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          I love your blaming the dems as the world sits by. It’s wild how the dems are more powerful than world combined. Weird almost.

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            The rest of the world combined isn’t funneling billions of dollars worth of weapons into the conflict.

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              The 10 year weapons deal signed in 2016? You do you, I’ll blame Israel for the genocide and the rest of the world that isn’t pushing for a peace treaty like the US currently is.

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                Let me get this straight. Liberals are now, unironically, using international law as a defense for being the primary arms supplier of a literal genocide. And that’s supposed to be an excuse to vote Blue MAGA.

                Lmao

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                I have no idea why you keep bringing up that particular deal. It’s not like it’s the only or even last deal the US has signed.

                The US hasn’t stopped. The US went out of its way to ensure Israel that there wouldn’t even be any delays in shipments.

                The US is blatantly enabling genocide and it’s currently headed by the Biden administration.

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                  I’ll lay out for you since you seem to be struggling, that or you have some form of narrative you’re trying to push, but you wouldn’t be doing that right?

                  Israel is committing a genocide that the US is trying to get a cease fire/peace treaty for. That’s more than the rest of world but you don’t care because??? Narrative? Without support to Israel, Iran would run roughshot through the middle east killing more people and causing bigger problems. That’s why the world hasn’t stepped in and stomped Israel. It’s like the world is playing chess and you’re playing tic tac toe.

                  Save your bullshit response. There’s nothing else to be said.

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                The 10 year weapons deal signed in 2016?

                The Leahy Law prohibits selling weapons for genocide. Keep ignoring this because it’s something you don’t want to hear and call me a foreign shill some more. Lying in support of genocide is all centrists do.

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                  10 U.S. Code 2249 section b:

                  Exception.—The prohibition in subsection (a)(1) shall not apply if the Secretary of Defense, after consultation with the Secretary of State, determines that the government of such country has taken all necessary corrective steps, or if the equipment or other assistance is necessary to assist in disaster relief operations or other humanitarian or national security emergencies.

                  I don’t have a degree in political science, and I’m not a lawyer but there’s the answer to your Leahy Law, but the last three words should sum it up. It also is talking about aid and not an existing contract. The more you know right?

                  You keep saying I support genocide, this is false and an outright lie. I’ve said over and over I do not support a genocide, not the one in Israel, China, or Ukraine. You’ve only mentioned Israel and you blame the US. What I find the most odd is this talk has been going on for a while. “Genocide Joe” that was the talking point, all you saw, everywhere. Genocide Joe. Then, Joe Biden drops out and SILENCE. No more talk of genocide for days. Nothing. Now everyone got their bearings straight and here we are again with all the “people” talking about the US and the dems fault for the genocide.

                  Why was there a break when Joe Biden dropped out? A real head scratcher isn’t it?

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    Biden will wag his finger at Bibi, and give him $1 bil less the next round of funding. Boy is that gonna sting .

    /s

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    Do you know how many Americans the US government kills in the US? Why would they give a shit about one more far away?

    Lol.

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      I think people forget that cops are part of the government and they definitely kill innocent people.

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    As the Zionist elite are the real owners of America, I think nothing will happen.

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      Just say Jews. You mean Jews.

      Globalists, Zionist elite, international cabal…just say Jews.

      Your dog whistles are heard loud and clear on the internet these days.

      We really need to Make Nazis Afraid Again

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        Not all Jews are Zionists as not all Zionists are Jews, there are plenty of christian nationalists who are Zionists.

        Anti-zionism isn’t the same as anti-Semitism.

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        You’re the anti-semite here, you’re the one mixing up Jews with a genocidal terrorist group.

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    I wonder Ozma, what would you have the US do?

    (This is for OP, others need not reply)

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    Protesting in a war zone of a foreign country on the side that started it and knowing how Israel is executing a genocide is a whole new level of stupid.

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        I don’t support any genocide. I support a cease fire/peace treaty, something you don’t seem to understand or support, but narrative amirite?