• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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    The mainstream talking point of Democrats turned to “we need to play it safe and win all the Republican votes”.

    They believe only centrist moderate voters can be scared away. And claim progressives are always guaranteed to vote Democrat. Everything hangs on that assumption.

  • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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    Oh my god. This account finds something to nitpick at the Dems and posts every five minutes. Notice how they barely - if ever - post anything critical of Republicans?

    Every. Five. Minutes.

    You want a seat ta the table? Learn how politics works. Otherwise, I don’t know, go back to purity testing the Dems every five minutes. See where that gets you.

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      The only people ever afforded a seat at the table are the moneyed class. And Democrats do need to be put under a microscope because they’re the ones that pretend to be allies to the marginalized, While they Co opt our languages to use against us when we decide to not vote for them because they stabbed us in the back. Republicans wear their racism and their bigotry on their shoulders for all to see. For Democrats, it’s covert.

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        Sure. Except the policies they pass represent their electorate and are diametrically opposed to Republicans.

        Listen, I’m for all the same things everyone on this platform wants. The issue is our generation is terminally online but doesn’t bother to vote. If you want to make changes disengaging from the political system altogether is not the answer. Building coalitions and doing the hard work is. But that takes work and is not exciting, so it’s just easier for accounts like @return2ozma@lemmy.world to keep spamming non-stop about how “both parties are equal” and “corpo overlords”. It’s just more fun, isn’t it?

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          Gurl I’m still saying vote for Kamala but be aware their shortcomings. Fuck Trump and the GOP.

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        “they need to be put under a microscope”

        You know what they say, there’s no one like someone on the left to make sure the most progressive party lose votes.

        There’s so much stuff politicians won’t talk about on the campaign trail because they’re wedge issues and because their records already show they’re in favor/against those things, it’s better to shut up than to alienate a lot of voters to please few voters. Spoiler alert, not all Democrats voters care about trans rights and more of them will jump ship if they believe Harris is woke than will jump in the ship if she starts talking about trans rights during the campaign because the majority of people who support trans rights already understand that the Democrats support their rights even if they don’t make it a campaign issue.

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          Calling Democrats the “most progressive party” is like calling a carpet bombing the “most peaceful action” because the alternative is a thermonuclear bomb.

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                That’s a pretty ridiculous answer… One party tried to increase healthcare access the other destroys whatever progress the other party made. One party is in favor of science, the other chooses a president that suggests injecting bleach to get rid of diseases. One party tries to create digital programs, the other blocks any attempts at it…

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                  One party is fully owned by the ultra-wealthy and will not do anything to even slightly weaken the oppression of the 99%, the other party is fully owned by the ultra-wealthy and will not do anything to even slightly weaken the oppression of the 99% and also lies about it.

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      Gurl… I don’t oppose Democrats because I’m on the same side as Republicans. I oppose Democrats because they’re on the same side as Republicans.

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    “Should Have” in what sense? Like as a moral matter or to get elected? They’re very different things.

    • Too bad there’s no article you could read to check. It might even say something like:

      But in a stunning abdication of moral responsibility, Democrats made little mention of trans rights during this year’s Democratic National Convention (DNC). Trans people were mentioned in just two speeches, and neither speaker received prime-time speaking slots. For the first time since 2012, the DNC did not feature any trans speakers.

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    ITT: we do the white moderate thing MLK talked about where we set a timetable for someone’s rights. I’m sure one day it’ll be politically convenient to support trans people, y’all just hang in there.

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    Protection of democracy is paramount. Everything else - everything - is secondary. There are a hundred things that need to be fixed, and that has to happen after.

    After.

    Yes, even for that. Because secondary.

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      The fact that this needs to be said is a testament to the efficacy of Republican culture war bullshit. Instead of discussing the numerous unprecedented existential threats to human civilization, everything from pollution to the end of democracy, we’re focused on… trans rights.

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            There’s a difference between recognizing that defending democracy is absolutely the #1 thing to be talking about and doing that and entirely going “blah blah” at basic human rights

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              Trans rights are literally human rights. I’m fairly certain the Democratic platform is to protect human rights. How would it benefit us to focus on one particular niche right among the others, many of which are way more important?

              • the right to clean air
              • the right to clean water
              • the right to medical care
              • the right to free speech
              • the right to choose your own gender
              • the right to remain silent
              • the right to eat pizza in the shower
              • the right to affordable housing
              • the right to education
              • the right to stick things in your butt
              • the right to listen to music
              • the right to eat random debris
              • the right to have cats
              • the right to own blankets
              • etcetera