“Heads up, there won’t be a WAN Show this week. Instead, we will continue to focus on addressing issues raised both internally and by the community during our production break. We appreciate you all for your patience.”

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    11 months ago

    Kinda bummed but also a good choice unless it was Luke and someone else.

    Don’t really need Linus opening his mouth right now.

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      Tarren would be interesting, but I suspect he is probably very hesitant to go live and unfiltered. He has seen how that worked for his predecessor :/

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    As much as I like WAN show, it does seem a bit symptomatic of the overwork. They go until after midnight on a Friday night? And frequently they call someone who should be home?

    Merch messages have metastasized it a bit. Maybe they should just prerecord it during work hours, and answer merch messages from the previous week? Would be less interactive, but most of the curated merch messages seem to be general questions anyway, rather than topic specific questions? They could still automatically show current merch messages in the banner as the video goes live?

    I at least hope they are either paying Dan overtime or letting him shift his hours around.

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      Hope Dan is getting reimbursed as well, though if Madison’s claim about time off is to be believed, I don’t have much confidence in that.

      A bit of a side tangent, but the way Linus talks to Dan has always kinda rubbed me the wrong way. There’s jokey “Dan wants me to do this but I’m gonna do this instead” banter that’s ok but there are times where Linus just seems to openly disregard Dan and blame him for his own fuckups on the show. Not trying to be a parasocial Andy here but it does make the podcast harder to listen to, imo.

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        Linus has this attitude with everyone. The reason you see it more with Dan is because it’s Live.

        He has an attitude problem

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          Yeah, I was really annoyed when, during the Billet Labs monoblock “review” video, I saw Linus berating his cohost for not guessing shit he wanted, while the cohost was very obviously trying his best to do all he could while respectfully staying out of Linus’s way.

          And that’s just one example in a single video.

          Damned if you do, damned is you don’t. You just can’t win.

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        It’s really off-putting to me too, even if it was truly fake banter. And I’m no longer sure it’s even mostly fake banter.

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        We are no longer dicussing facts anyway and want to burn people at the stake

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          I don’t want to burn anyone at the stake. I just want to know that everything is done above board. If they are getting overtime, then all is well, and I’m happy.

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      That’s the exact same thing I’m thinking every time I’m watching. I wouldn’t stay at work after midnight on every single Friday that’s for sure.

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      11 months ago

      Another symptom of the overwork is that I believe they’re late to start most weeks?

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    If they continue it meant they value tradition more than righting the wrongs. Remember that it’s deep seated tradition that allowed the work culture to fester in the first place.

    Not to mention all the chats would be bombarded.

    Lastly I think Dan deserves a break.

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        They probably had some floatplane exclusives ready to go pre- scheduled. Asking about that from their paying customers honestly seems fair.

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          Pretty sure I saw another screenshot that said they did have a couple in the wings they asked about postponing.

          But at a certain point the outrage has to apparently turn into a witch hunt and blaming them for stuff they didn’t or haven’t done, so here we are. There’s plenty of real stuff to be mad about without making anything up.

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          Yeah, I’m by no means happy with this turn of events, but given that they actually pay for content on Floatplane, it makes perfect sense to me to ask them if they should do a show.

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        how else do you expect him to read the room and know not to make sex jokes or steal auction shit that isnt his.

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        They had exclusives already produced, uploaded and scheduled to go live, so no actual work to release them. The poll was if they should let those go ahead or hold them back in the spirit of the break.

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    Good. They need to take this shit seriously. This could be (imo should be) the end of LTT.

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      Why should it be the end of LTT? That’s so not constructive! We should strive toward forcing a change at the company, but not ending its existence! There are many people employed there, and whatever has occurred regarding Madison, only a fraction of those working there 9 to 5 will have had anything to do with it.

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        I’m not in the crowd of should be, and I’m all for second chances. But, I could see why someone wouldn’t want Linus, and a company under his name, to not be successful because of who he is and what’s happening. Liking a product but not the person behind it is ok. Making a choice not to support either is also ok.

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    Does anyone have any suitable “alternatives” in podcasts which are similar to the WAN Show in atmosphere? (As in: longer conversations about tech-adjecent topics) I don’t feel comfortable wanting to go near LMG’s content (my only consistent watching was the WAN Show to be frank) after these discoveries.

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      Probably the level 1 techs various shows, used to be one big thing but now I think they release different “categories” each day or something, it’s been a while since I’ve watched them, damn you YouTube messing with my feed.

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      11 months ago

      Jay-Z 2 cents has a pod called RTFM if you like his content. Not necessarily the same but still in the tech world.

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      11 months ago

      I would suggest you check out Smashing Security. Although it doesn’t have the variable length that WAN Show has, it’s worth a listen.