All I’m saying is they didn’t start beating the drums until Gandalf shouted at poor Pippin

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    Yeah, cause if you think of it… it’s a goddamn mine, and an old one at that. Things are going to crash and clatter around if you leave it for a while. That noise is something to check out, sure, but nothing to get worked up over. Just send Gurj out to make sure it didn’t fall on anyone when he finishes with his manflesh steak.

    Now, someone hollering in the language of one of your hated enemies? That’s something to call at least a scouting party out for. Especially when it comes immediately after the aforementioned clanging around, because that could easily be an invading force.

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    If Gandalf STFU they could have stealthily walked out of Moria but Gandalf wouldn’t have all that sick XP to himself and level up to The White Wizard prestige class.

    Ol Ganny was power gaming. He even got the rest of the party to retreat so he wouldn’t have to share XP points.

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    Hmmm, the same might be possible in the book too:

    Pippin felt curiously attracted by the well. While the others were unrolling blankets and making beds against the walls of the chamber, as far as possible from the hole in the floor, he crept to the edge and peered over. A chill air seems to strike his face, rising from the invisible depths. Moved by a sudden impulse he groped for a loose stone, and let it drop. He felt his heart beat many times before there was any signs. Then far below, as if the stone had fallen into deep water in some cavernous place, the came a plunk, very distant, but magnified and repeated in the hollow shaft.

    ‘What’s that?’ cried Gandalf. He was relieved when Pippin confessed what he had done; but he was angry, and Pippin could see his eye glinting. ‘Fool of a Took!’ he growled. ‘This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!’

    Nothing more was heard for several minutes; but then there came out of the depths faint knocks: tap-tom, tap-tom. …

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      At least book gandalf just growled it. A growl to me is a lot quieter than what movie gandalf did

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        He did cry “what’s that”, it seems like that would’ve been pretty loud.

        And it seems even more Gandalf’s fault in the book since it was just a single stone falling into water. That has to happen all the time in a cave.

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          Okay but the movie version was much funnier, and I think any good Hobbit would appreciate that.

          One rock vs the skull… and the skeleton… and the chain… … and the bucket.

          Just friggin’ legendary.

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        Gandalf growled

        And I thought it was Christopher Lee who played in a metal band

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    yeah i’ve actually been thinking about this exact thing for a while lately… that the Balrog wasn’t there for the Ring and Frodo… it actually came for Gandalf, because he was announcing himself as the real Big Boss around… and that’s why Gandalf is Grey… he’s conflicted about his relationship to The Ring, and whether he feels like it’s his responsibility… he’s showing it in how he deals with Pippin’s tomfoolery…

    basically Gandalf had already claimed The Ring from Frodo, and the Balrog knew he was the one to take down… this is why Gandalf had to be tested…

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      That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. How can you say that Gandalf basically claimed the ring from Frodo? He specifically didn’t do it; like Galadriel he passed the „test“ of temptation from using the ring.